Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Bang, bang, bang, Bang, bang, bang, bang, Bang.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Banger.
[00:00:18] Speaker C: Hello. How are you?
[00:00:20] Speaker A: Wonderful. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
[00:00:22] Speaker C: What represents half us for you? Is that the best festival in the world?
[00:00:27] Speaker A: Pretty. Pretty darn close, I'll say.
We played two years ago at the War Zone stage, which is where we are again today.
We played earlier, obviously, than we're playing today. Today we have, like, a really prime spot.
[00:00:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Before I came here, I had the best catering I've ever had in my entire life. The hospitality is amazing. The crowd is just juiced.
So, yeah, I mean, we don't really. We don't really have festivals like this in America that much, so it's really special to be a part of this.
[00:00:54] Speaker C: There's a real difference between Americans one and European ones.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: It's just more common here, I think, in the States. You know, we have a lot of really great festivals, but they're more spread out around the country and they don't happen as frequently. And so the festival season here is such a special thing because, you know, it's six weeks of fest after fest and keeping us busy. It's awesome.
[00:01:17] Speaker C: Maybe too many festivals in Europe, but it's his work.
[00:01:22] Speaker A: I think you got a good balance.
[00:01:25] Speaker C: Do you remember the first festival you went or the first. Gigi, there's not a real.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: The first festival I ever went to was warp tour, probably 2008. Warp tour.
[00:01:39] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: I grew up in Oregon, which is in the northwestern part of the states, but I lived in a really small town in the southern part of the state, and I didn't move to the Portland area until I was, like, you know, 13 years old.
And so my mom took me to my first Warp Tour ever. And she might have had more fun than I. I did, but, yeah, it was awesome.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Did your mother. Mother was into alternative music?
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. My mom is a rocker.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: That's cool. She. She. We were having this conversation the other day, like, about, you know, our top four shows, and I texted her and asked, and her first.
Her first concert ever was Depeche Mode. Whoa. So, yeah, she's pretty awesome.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Is she now really happy when you get to play with bands that she likes?
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, her favorite bands are, like, Deftones and Gojira, and we haven't really crossed that yet, but we'll see soon, hopefully. Hopefully. It's on our bucket list.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Two years.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Yes, max. I hope so.
[00:02:46] Speaker C: And we used to ask to the artists, we have an interview, which music. Which thing decided you to come in? Metal scene except your mom.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: How did you meet this kind of music?
[00:03:01] Speaker A: MySpace. Yeah. I feel like I'm 31, so I feel like a lot of people my age have a very similar story of, like, you know, finding Bring Me the Horizon.
[00:03:10] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: You know, or anything. I. I started listening to, like. I was friends with, like, a lot of, like, metalheads in middle school.
You know, I was, like, 10, 11, 12 years old, and we listened to, you know, Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden and, like, all the, you know, classic stuff. But I didn't get so much into, like, the actual subculture of all of it until, like, MySpace happened.
[00:03:36] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a really amazing thing. MySpace at this time, we remember this.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: The discovering, the discoveries you could make on MySpace were amazing.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: Like, yeah.
[00:03:47] Speaker B: So easy.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: I feel like we're having a similar renaissance for the youth now. But their MySpace is like TikTok or Instagram.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: It's just really accessible in a way that it felt like it wasn't quite for a while.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:03] Speaker C: And why did you choose metalcore? Because of Bring Me the Horizon,
[00:04:10] Speaker A: as in, like, starting a band? I don't really know. I think.
Yeah. I mean, I love metalcore, but my preferred. Preferred genre of heavy music is for sure hardcore.
But, you know, I always wanted to also sing in a band. So I think metalcore kind of, like, made a little bit more sense that way. But that's. You know, we started out, like, kind of writing more of, like, the hardcore side of metalcore. And then I think it just went. Ended up going full metalcore at some point. Cause, you know, your girl's gotta sing. But I don't know how it happened. Yeah, just kind of naturally.
[00:04:44] Speaker C: And the emotion. The emotion about this. I mean, like, is it for the anger, for crying, for all the emotions? I don't know.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: All of it. Yeah. I mean, it is interesting because, like, our songs are very emotional, very heavy.
Some of them are very personal. Some of them are very political, you know, but there's still so much fun to perform live. So, like, most of the time, I can't help but smile even though I'm, you know, writing about, you know, a lot of sad things.
But, yeah, no, it's. It's just. I've always listened to, you know, my favorite, like, genre of hardcore was always, like, the more politically motivated or the more, like, emotional side. Like, have Heart was like, one of the first hardcore bands I ever listened to, and they have like, a very, you know, meaningful message behind it. And so I kind of always just thought that that would be part of our songs.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Do you think that the more you sing, the more you get comfortable with it, the more you feel free to sing more? Is it, like, going this way?
[00:05:49] Speaker A: I think it changes after every release. We do. Like, I remember, like, after the first record being like, I want to sing more. After the second record being like, okay, I want to sing more. And then on the third record, I was like, okay, maybe I sang too much, you know?
[00:06:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:08] Speaker A: I don't know. It's kind of a constant, like, struggle of, like.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:12] Speaker A: Because I used to prefer singing over screaming so much more now that I've gotten better at screaming and I have. It's like just kind of a muscle memory for me. Now I'm like, okay, well, I'm kind of having a lot of fun doing this right now. I kind of want to scream a little bit more. So I think every release will be a little bit different, which is what you want to do as an artist anyways.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: And you were saying that on stage, you couldn't help yourself to smiling because you're having fun singing.
Is it.
What is your fuel to perform on stage?
Do you rely a lot on the fun? On the technical aspect, on the connecting to the emotions? How do you.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: I used to a lot. And then I learned that the more the adrenaline kicked in, the worse it felt for my body.
And I would just wake up the next day because I was so disconnected, and in the moment, that adrenaline, I would just wake up feeling horrible. My neck and my back hurts.
So I'm kind of, like, finding a balance between, like, you know, I am a pretty physical performer, but, like, I don't need to be doing backflips on stage. You know, that's like. Nobody needs that. So trying to find a balance in that way has been a constant battle of mine.
[00:07:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe you should have a headset like this so you could, like, do flips and stuff.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: Like Britney. Yeah.
[00:07:38] Speaker C: Can be cool.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: I'll try it one day.
I'll try anything once. Yeah.
[00:07:43] Speaker C: So when you're on stage, this is the best part of your life because you're outside of all the bad things.
[00:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I. We. We spent the first five months at home, and that was the longest time we had gone without playing a show since the pandemic. And I was very aware of the fact that I am a person outside of this band, and I need to find my hobbies, and I need to find the things that keep me motivated and connected to myself. But I do definitely feel most like myself in this environment.
So yeah, it is, you know, an incredible outlet for me and I'm very lucky to be able to do this. Yeah, that's true.
[00:08:32] Speaker C: That we can lost ourselves because we are on stage, we have the band for the fun, for the emotion, for the energy, for the power of it.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: Right.
[00:08:39] Speaker C: Because it's really powerful.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: And also living for the band and not for yourself anymore.
[00:08:44] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I appreciate it. Like, I feed off of the energy of the crowd. So if I can tell that that's the experience they're having, it's easier for me too, for sure.
[00:08:54] Speaker C: So you have an album called Flesh Taste together.
It's bit different than the other one.
Like, how can I say in English? Sorry.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: That's okay.
[00:09:04] Speaker C: It is Maybe less anger to fight things. Maybe more deception. I don't know. I don't know. How can I say that?
[00:09:13] Speaker A: It's a little less aggressive.
It's a little. Well, I don't think that it's not aggressive. No, but it's less.
Yeah.
We definitely wanted to explore kind of outside of, you know, because I think especially our second. Our first and second record was very, you know. Oh, they sound like this band from the early 2000s or the late 90s.
And I think we wanted to explore like, okay, how, but like, how can we do that? And like, still.
But like kind of do our own thing. And so we explored a lot. We did some more artistic things, avant garde and like, there's some stuff that I'm really proud of on the record, but I don't think that we'll ever do it again, at least not for this next record. I think that we. It was quite the learning experience. It was the first time we'd worked with a new producer. And so. So we kind of now, like have, you know, full steam ahead, like this really clear picture of everything that we loved from that record in the last two and like, what we want to accomplish next.
[00:10:19] Speaker B: Yeah, you need to try things to know where you want to go after.
That's interesting.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:25] Speaker C: And some bands, some old benches do always the same song. Acdc.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: No, I mean, it works.
[00:10:33] Speaker C: Yeah, but, you know, I. I'm not a musician, but I think that when you're an artist, you need to challenge yourself, try things not be always the same, but at the same time, you know that the.
The. The audience want to have the sound that you. That is yours. You know what I mean? So it's quite difficult. It is choose and do things because, you know, you have to deal with it.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I mean.
I mean, there's some songs on the record that I think are the best songs that we've ever done. And there's some songs that, you know, I don't know. I just. I feel like we kind of, like, would have maybe missed the mark on it, but I don't even know if I'm supposed to be saying this, but that's just genuinely how I feel looking back. I mean, I think that, you know, we did everything to the, like, our ability and our musicianship was really amazing, and the songwriting is really great.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: I think it's also because a record is a picture of you in a moment, and then you keep on evolving, and sometimes you evolve faster and sometimes not.
And I think also when you get to tour on an album, that's where you really discover how you feel about it or maybe change your mind about, oh, we should have done this or that, or There's.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: There's parts on every, like, songs on every record. Like, somebody asked me the other day, there's a song on the first record I can't remember, but it starts with a breakdown and it has, like, a really bright singing chorus. I can't remember what it's called. But someone was like, well, you. Like, we want you to play that again. And I was like, no, like, I will. I literally never want to play that song again just because, you know, you just move past it, you know, but,
[00:12:17] Speaker B: oh, maybe it will come back one day.
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Maybe if we do like a we never know anniversary or people are, you know, annoying enough about it.
[00:12:24] Speaker C: Then I think about all those huge band that said, I don't want to sing this song again. Creep. Radiohead.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:12:32] Speaker C: They said, no, we don't want to sing it again. Yeah, we just hear too much on the radio, too. And it's his. Awesome. But please.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: That's how you sell tickets, though.
[00:12:40] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
I mean.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: I mean, I don't think it's really hard for them to sell tickets, but that's true.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: But, yeah, I have a question.
So sorry about mentioning the fact that you're a woman, but we see that there's a lot of female funchet bands that are coming now that are really inspiring for all the girls and I think also brings more girls to listen to this music, just like Evanescence did back in the days. Even if they're coming back, I mean, what is it like to be part of this strong movement?
[00:13:20] Speaker A: It's amazing.
You know, I grew up in a scene that I never even realized that I didn't feel represented in until I started seeing bands that had women in it.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: This is my next question.
[00:13:34] Speaker A: Yeah, and so to me, my idea of my participation in the scene was always to just, you know, be an enjoyer and a supporter of it. Until I started to see other women singing in bands or, you know, booking shows or, you know, selling merch or doing any of the things. And then I realized like, oh, like this is what's possible. And so I think what we're seeing is the future of the scene and all of these young people that are growing up, like their new idea of heavy music is going to be that women's involvement is normalized. And that's just one step in the right direction for us to have a really healthy, balanced community.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: So you mean that before seeing like female fronted bands, you never thought you could sing in a metal band?
[00:14:32] Speaker A: I always wanted to be a singer or be in a band, but in a metal band, honestly, I don't really ever thought, I don't, I don't think until about maybe 10 years ago that I ever thought I would be in one.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: And do you have any memories of which artists made you connect with this path?
[00:14:53] Speaker A: Yeah, honestly.
There's a band from Calgary called Mortality Rate.
Their singer Jess is a good friend of mine.
She's also in another band called World of Pleasure.
But we were at. There used to be a hardcore festival in Seattle called Rain Fest. And it was the last year of Rain Fest.
Um, and I'd seen women like 2016, like it was starting to become more common. But a lot of women were just like, you know, mostly in punk bands.
But my friend Jess, she sang screamed in a, in a hardcore band. And seeing someone that I know especially like that it like, is someone that I relate to, I was like, oh wait, I could do this too.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: That's amazing.
He says he's just a spectator of our discussion.
[00:15:47] Speaker C: That's really nice. No, I just think I just was thinking about the fact that we can feel the emotion of the other one when we can connect with this kind of people.
When you see someone like you and just shout or screaming or things like this, you want to do it, but you don't think you can do it. You don't know why, right? But at a moment you say, okay, we can do it. Fuck.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: Well, I mean like these festivals are so cool and really important, but I think it's, that's why it's even more so important for people to like go to the local shows and like be involved in like the smaller community because like then it just opens up more doors for like, you know, meeting people. People always ask, like, how do you start a band? You just go to shows and meet people. You'll. It'll happen organically.
[00:16:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: But. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I wasn't a part of, like, a DIY community like that, if I would have ever been in a band. Yeah.
[00:16:38] Speaker C: So thank you for everything. Thank you for your music and all those answers. Thank you so much.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: Oh, you're so sweet. Thanks.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: Spotify, dessert apple, Amazon.
