Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Bang bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang bang Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, bang, bang.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: We came as romance and Aston Dans Bang bang. Pour CES Special El Feste Festival Avecandi hello.
[00:00:20] Speaker A: Hello.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: How are you?
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Good. Thanks for having me.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: Oui.
So, you know, we just want to talk about festivals. Do you remember the first festival you went.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: I think the first festival I ever went to was Warped Tour back in the day.
Just.
I just remember walking around seeing hundreds of bands, and my feet were hurting, and I bump into all my friends, and my dad took me, so he was like, okay, I'm gonna go get a beer. He's like, you watch some bands? I'm like, okay, cool. So.
And I remember being like, this is awesome. And then, you know, years and years later, they were like, you want to do the tour? And then I'm like, my feet still hurt. So it was good. But, yeah, I love the festival season. I love all the bands, community and family coming out to support and just doing cool shit. And it just keeps getting bigger and bigger every year, so it makes my heart happy.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: So the festival time is better because you see Friends, because there's more human feelings about it when you're on a festival, more than a gig.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's. I mean, I think each show has its own special thing. You know, you're in a certain place or, you know, a certain time of your life, so there'll always be little things. You know, sometimes the smallest shows bring me the most joy, and sometimes the biggest shows, like, you know, things up, and you're like, oh, I hated that show. You know, so it's. I think it'll always depend. But I do think the older that I get, the more thankful and appreciative I am of just time and certain things. And I think the years, naturally, for me anyway, softened me just to be like, I'm so excited to play with my friends again, you know, so it's. It's good because, you know, things like Covid or, you know, things like that that, you know, at first I can. It can feel like it's taken away. As soon as it comes back, you're just so thankful. So it's always important to, you know, be thankful.
[00:02:12] Speaker B: So you keep your young mind, your kid mind. When you see maybe bands that you love over there.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I think you always. That's the. One of the winning things in.
In the race of music is just you always have to be learning the minute you stop. And I think that goes for most, you know, art, craft, or anything. Is you always have to learn. As soon as you stop, that's when you become stagnant and you become jaded and hard to move. And I think if you want to feel light young, you always have to be learning and be okay with knowing that you're not doing everything right. Because that's the, the beauty of art and it's the. Your fuck ups make the most success sometimes. So it's important. And I think I just get excited when I'm around good people and people that are learning and you know, getting in there and not knowing what they're doing. But making something really cool and positive
[00:03:02] Speaker B: things are the main maybe subject for we came as Romans to say Life is Beautiful.
Like the name of the last album maybe. Yeah. Do you want to talk about this? About the life, about the end of life? Yeah. Because this is the cycle, you know?
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah, 100%.
[00:03:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: I mean like we've been through a lot as a band.
A lot of people know and some people don't. We lost our vocalist Kyle Pavone in 2018 and it was very sad time. It was very hard time.
So we wrote a record in his honor and how we felt in our grieving process called Dark Bloom. And then after this record, you know, it did very well and we got to tour on it and it was difficult, but also felt so good and freeing. And then you, you know, do you have to write another record after that? And you know, you kind of take away, you know, the piece of the, of the grieving and the component of this and now you have no target of what you want to write about or who you are. So we had to sit down as a band and really get to the core of why we do this, who we are and the identity. And so a lot of band therapy, like we're just sitting in a room talking about experiences. And I made this rule up many years ago. But we only write songs that the entire band has been through something. So if the whole band hasn't been through that, then we don't write about it because you can't get on stage and express it. I don't want to play a song that our guitarist has written or our drummer has written. I want to or experienced because I will not understand it. But if we all have experienced it, we all see ooh, I've seen it this way. And so the last record we sat down and talked about all the experiences that shaped us and that made us and put them into words and all these concept is, comes from the all is one Concept, which is like one of my favorite things. It's like everyone and everything is connected. And it's the golden rule. It's do unto others, they will do unto you. But I thought all is one is too short and broad for a title. And then the Homer who wrote the Iliad and the Odyssey, and it's in the movie Troy where he says, let me teach you something about your temple. He's like, the gods envy us. He's like, they. They envious because we're mortal. It's like any moment could be your last. He goes, everything in life is way more beautiful because you're doomed. So it's more so as all is beautiful. Everything and everyone in life is connected in a beautiful way. Whether it's positive or disaster or, you know, good or bad, it all makes up to lead you down, to run one road eventually, which will be your end. But it is a very beautiful journey. So it's important. Anytime something bad happens, I always think, like, how is this going to eventually help me in some way? How will this help me understand something? And when you think like that, you know, instead of like, if you, you know, like something happens to you and you're like, oh, no, this is so bad. And you're like, actually, this is opening something up much more beautiful that I should. I should understand this. So it's shifting the view and the thought. So that's what the record is about.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: That sense. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: 100%. Lessons. Always. Always lessons. Yes.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: That's a good thing. You do say that to French audience. Because we always like being wrong.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you said Americans, man.
That's a whole other episode, dude.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: And it's a good message too. Like we are in a festival. You said at first, that festival. Really nice thing, energy.
When you got all the crowd with
[00:06:28] Speaker A: you, you got this energy, this fuel, maybe 100%. Yeah. I mean, there's something about playing with, like, whether it's like other bands or just people that are excited, you know, some people, this is their first show. Some people, this is their hundredth show. Some people didn't think that they'd be able to make it to the show. Or some people got in last minute, or some people meet their. Their loved one or their. Their partner, or they. They make a new friend group that now they go to the show every year. I think that there's so much more to the community than the community gives itself credit for sometimes or recognizes. And when everyone's in unison, jumping or feeling or, you know, falling in love with their song, or that song that they've played a million times in their car, they get to hear it live. It's important. So there's. I think there is a lot more that goes into it than meets the eye. And I think a lot of people are like, oh, you know, it's like a lot of people, it's like it's more than that and it gets bigger every year. And I think that that's exciting because it's.
Is important and that's. I've met most of my friends and most of my family. Away from my family are the people I tour with or travel with. And so I, you know, I. I feel like I can relate to them. I can talk to them and I can feel things. And same with fans that I've met over the years. It's. It's important. It's community, and community lasts a long time. And I think without your community, life would be dull. Life would be lonely.
[00:07:44] Speaker C: You. You said that a lot of your life is related to this music. How much do you think it. This music brought to your life? Do you think you. You could have a life without this music? What did like, before doing it and even just listening to it?
[00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's funny, there's.
There's this book called A New Earth, and it's by Eckhart Tolle, and it's about your ego. And so the band is something that I do. It is not who I am. Just very important.
Who you are isn't. You know my name. Andy. That's my name. You know, it's not what you do. You know music. It's not from Detroit, Michigan, where I'm from. And, you know, it's. It's not what I look like. I am doing an interview in France with amazing people right now. That's who I am right now in the current state.
But I had this moment of thinking like, oh, if I didn't have the band, if I didn't have these things, would it still make me me? And I, you know, was like, yes, of course. No matter what, whether you're a fan or this or that, like, you will always, you know, find something that makes you tick, whether it was music or I could have gone to school to be something else. You know what I mean? I think you always find yourself wondering and attaching yourself to that identity. But I do think that I got very lucky to be a part of this. And even if I wasn't in a band or doing this, maybe I would have been a crew or maybe I would have Been just going to concerts or maybe just a listener and at my job, you know, And I think that no matter what you can, you never should define yourself to one whole thing. But it is important to be thankful for those things. And it's important to be thankful for who you are or your strengths or your weaknesses. You know, they. They do make you someone, but they don't always make you who you are. You will always and forever be changing. But it's important to know, like, where you came from and what helped shape you. So, yeah, I've thought about that. Like, oh man, like, what would I just be. Would I be okay with being Andy? That's just normal and not an event. And hell yeah, I would be more than happy. I would still be a fan of music, I think. You know, who knows, I'd be kind of bummed if I was in, you know, maybe not cool music like elevator music or something, you know, but, you know, I would. I would still find a way to be happy.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Do you think that metal music is more special than the other ones? You know what I mean? Because we used to talk about mental health. We used to want to share good things, good feelings. Do you think that our music is different than your acceptations of bad things
[00:10:17] Speaker C: in the way of katasi?
[00:10:19] Speaker A: So I think that, you know, art is. And music is like a representation of your surroundings. You know, we actually just on the bus watched Straight Outta Compton and it was really great movie because, you know, they're writing about the things happening in their area, you know, like police brutality and different things and same, you know, with artists, you know, like people like, even our band is like people who don't feel understood, you know, or people that, you know, maybe feel like they don't understand them or want to write something heavy to get this anger and aggression out in a. In a healthy way and. Or positive message. Positive thinking, which our band has, you know, done for many years, has been like, think positively, you know, and you don't have to be a Christian or you don't have to do this. You can just think this way. You can just be this way.
So I don't know if I necessarily agree with us being better or not necessarily better, but or having more of a impact on music than other artists. I think that we have a very different, unique impact and it's important to have that. But I think if you're looking at music in a whole, no one is really fighting for the same space as us, you know, And I think that it's important to make sure you hold down one of the pillars, you know, of music, which I'm very proud, and I'm sure you guys are, too, to hold that down and be a heavy music listener. But I do think that in the balance of life, you need all these other components to be heavy. You know what I mean? So it's good.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: Thank you so much for everything.
All is beautiful because we are doomed. We came as women.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: I understood that part.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Abbe sur le mont. Merci.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Awesome. Merci. Thank you so much.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Toute no chronique. So
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Spotify, Dessert Apple, Amazon, Nezitepa, Vuzabone.
