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When we first made and we passed around you, that was a long time ago. And you didn't fail.
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Caught red handed in your lies. The way of your spin is getting tired. You tried to pull me into it, but I'm not about it.
[00:50:46] Speaker D: Funny how you look confused, like all this shit is new to you.
[00:50:51] Speaker A: You run your mouth, it gets around. No, you can't hide it. Cause I don't really have the time to waste. And I don't care about you anyway.
Why you gotta be so. You're so toxic when you're toxic, you run your mouth around like I'm not gonna hear it. You're such an addict, you gotta have it.
Why you talk that shit? Doesn't make you feel better. Like you're a winner, but you're always gonna lose when you're better.
Don't you have something to do? Damn, I just feel bad for you. Your life is boring, you can't ignore it. So don't hate me for it. Cause I don't really have the time to waste and I don't care about you anyway. So if you got something else to say, say it to my face. You're so toxic when you're toxic, you run your mouth around like I'm not gonna hear it. You're such an addict, you gotta have it.
Sorry. You got all these insecurity.
You're so toxic when you. Toxic, you run your mouth around like I'm not gonna hear it. You're such an addict, you gotta have it.
Why you talk that shit? Doesn't make you feel bigger. Like you're a winner, but you always gonna lose when you bit up around it. Why you tack that shit? Why you being so tired?
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[00:53:30] Speaker D: Merci, pavo.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: Happy to see you again.
We used to meet, like, every time you have a new album. So this is the second one?
[00:53:41] Speaker D: Yes.
Voices.
[00:53:43] Speaker B: That's it.
[00:53:43] Speaker D: Vices? Yeah.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: For what? Voices. Voices in your head.
[00:53:47] Speaker D: No, no vices. So vices is, you know. You know, everybody has vices, whether, you know, the common ones, smoking, drinking. Oh, he's having.
And for me, the album is about overcoming vices. But also welcoming them and using them to your advantage in life. You know, I think a lot of times people have such a negative connotation around vices, but I think that life is boring without a little bit. You know what I mean? So it's kind of about recognizing them and not letting them get the best of you, but to actually use them.
[00:54:24] Speaker B: To your advantageous, and that's quite difficult.
[00:54:28] Speaker D: Yeah, it takes a long time. I'm still trying to figure it out.
[00:54:34] Speaker B: So welcome back. It is so far. This is yours. You know it so well. Bang, bang. You know, it's a metal show. It's about alternative rock. And your music is not really alternative rock, but we can find a lot of things that are alternative in your way of singing, in your way of making music.
So that's why you're here tonight.
It's a long time. What happened since the last time? You know, it was like two, three years ago.
[00:55:03] Speaker D: Two years? I don't know. Two or three? Yeah, something like that.
[00:55:07] Speaker B: I think there's a lot of things that happen now.
[00:55:09] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely. I moved to Nashville two years ago.
That has been so incredible, to be immersed in that community of musicians and living and breathing music in that way. You know, where I'm from in Kitchener, small town in Canada. It's such a common thing of the conversation is, oh, you're a musician. What else do you do? What's your real job? My parents don't do that.
And so it was pretty incredible to be in a place where that is everybody's nine to five, real job, you know what I mean?
So that has been amazing. I've been on the road pretty consistently for the past three, four years of just touring nonstop, which is, I love it. I absolutely love it. If I'm in one place for too long, I get restless.
I can't do it.
[00:55:58] Speaker B: And that's really something. You feel the music, you told me.
[00:56:02] Speaker D: But.
[00:56:04] Speaker B: What do you find more than this way of living? The music is inside Nashville. This is the vibration of the city, the vibration of the people, the vibration of the countryside, or everything like this.
[00:56:15] Speaker D: Everything city is all encompassing of music. It's living, it's breathing, it's lifeblood. And it's really cool to see that there's different shows going on every night. The first three months when I just moved there, I thought, am I even a musician? Because of the caliber of musician that you find just playing at a random bar, you know what I mean? It's the most talented guitar player I've ever seen, and they're playing country cover songs in a bar. I'm like, why? I mean, that's great, but why aren't they on a big stage selling out? You know what I mean? And so it's everywhere. And so it really made me hungry as an artist to try to get better and improve my craft and kind of hone in what I'm doing, really focus on it.
And then it's really inspiring to meet all these different writers that, you know, that's their life as well, and to feel that kind of community. And it is really special. Yeah.
[00:57:08] Speaker B: So you can exchange ideas or you can have the energy of the other ones.
[00:57:12] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
It's really cool. It's a very vibrant city.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: And as the sun. It's better.
It is better with the sun.
[00:57:22] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly.
[00:57:24] Speaker B: I'm from the soul of Francois.
[00:57:25] Speaker D: I prefer the sofa.
Yeah. It definitely made the winters a lot better than Canada.
[00:57:33] Speaker B: And for the people that love metal and alternative rock music, there's the new bar of Bonjour. I think. So this is in Nashville, no?
[00:57:41] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. There's one on Broadway.
[00:57:42] Speaker B: Is that a good thing?
[00:57:43] Speaker D: That a Broadway is a great. Is a great spot, but it's. It's very touristy. You know, it's a tourist trap, but it's definitely somewhere you have to go. If you've never been to Nashville, you have to check out Broadway.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:57:58] Speaker D: You have to.
[00:58:00] Speaker B: I never got. I never gone to. I never go to Nashville, so I have to. Do you have to go there?
[00:58:06] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:58:07] Speaker B: So today, with this new album, this is your second.
Where do you feel yourself? Where do you think you are today?
When you think about the first one? There's a second one. Where are you in the space of the spiritual things?
[00:58:25] Speaker D: I don't know.
Yeah. I think the growth from the first album to this album has been interesting to see retrospectively now that the album's done, because when you're in the moment of the creation and going through all of this stuff, you're not really paying attention to the growth. You're just kind of going through this. You're just doing it right. And then to see how this album has progressed, I think it's a lot more vulnerable than anything I've ever done. I am showing a softer side to myself and my music, which is very intimidating to let people into that side of you. Right. Like, it's like reading somebody a journal entry. You don't want to do that. It's your deepest, darkest things. Right. So that has been intimidating, but very freeing at the same time.
There's a lot of emotion that came from this album, you know, is a post breakup. I got dumped the day before a two month tour, and the tour, which sucked. Yeah. So that was, you know, a real. I had to navigate that, and it was a whirlwind of grieving, the mourning of that, you know, the loss of that relationship and what I thought my life was gonna look like and then, you know, being reckless and trying to forget that and then inevitably coming around to the other side of falling in love with the parts of myself that, you know, I kind of lost along the way. And so there's so much of that personal growth and journey in this album that I think makes it a lot more, I don't know, versatile and a little bit more touching on a few different points than I feel like my previous work has done. I feel like previously I've had this kind of hard shell exterior and have not really let the walls down to the audience. And now I am, which is terrifying.
[01:00:19] Speaker B: But at the same time, you know, when we hear the lyrics and everything like this, we can hear, like, broken heart, but a love song, too. You know, we feel one day in our lives the same thing. Think so? No.
[01:00:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:00:33] Speaker B: Like this, maybe you can have the good vibration from the old world.
[01:00:37] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: That feel the same that you.
[01:00:39] Speaker D: Yeah, well, I mean, I think that it's. It's just a natural part of life to. To feel those lows so that you can rebuild yourself after it. And there's no. You can't get to that good place without being in that low place. And that self discovery that happens when you go over those hurdles and you do the inner work to kind of heal, that is so rewarding. And, yeah, I'm grateful.
[01:01:05] Speaker B: It's terrible.
[01:01:06] Speaker D: It sucks, you know, it sucks.
[01:01:09] Speaker B: We all remember the first time we had this kind of broken heart, you know, you, oh, my God, I want to die.
[01:01:16] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely a heaviness to that, and I think some of that comes across in the music. I was angry, I was confused, I was frustrated, and then I was free. And I think that also comes into the record as well. But there's everything in between that, so.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: We can feel all these things.
[01:01:34] Speaker D: Yeah, it's like. It's like this, the russian things, like.
[01:01:39] Speaker B: And it wasn't so hard. Like, you went to tour two days after you said, the day after, the day after.
[01:01:47] Speaker D: So that sucks.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: When you're on stage, I think it's so hard. You know, your mind is not on stage. You will be on stage, because after when you play, you are on stage, of course, but at the moment you.
[01:02:01] Speaker D: Walk, to go on stage, it was difficult. There was definitely tears in the. In the bus, but it was. It was incredible at the same time, because as awful as I felt in that moment, you know, every night, I was able to express that on stage to an audience that had no idea what was going on. And the energy that I felt back and being able to connect with that many people was amazing. You know, even though. Right. Even though they had no idea I was going through this terrible personal struggle and trying to figure out what was going on every night, I got to kind of forget that when I got on. On stage.
[01:02:44] Speaker B: Wow.
It's good because the people can give you something that you.
[01:02:52] Speaker D: Sorry, I need it.
[01:02:53] Speaker B: And you lost. I don't know, you can be like, who am I? Where I can go, what I want to do right now?
We all know this. The last time I was.
I didn't have sex since two years. Okay. Someone want to have sex with me, I'm free. Okay.
[01:03:14] Speaker D: I love it.
[01:03:15] Speaker B: Can do it, you know, frozen.
So the last time I was just crying, like, a lot.
[01:03:20] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:03:21] Speaker B: I can't. Thinking about anything else.
[01:03:23] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:03:23] Speaker B: But, in fact, we have to think about things. So music and going on stage, you have to work. You have to do.
[01:03:31] Speaker D: You have to do show. Yeah, show must go on.
[01:03:34] Speaker B: That's exactly that. So, yeah, it helps, you know, it does.
[01:03:38] Speaker D: It was. It was definitely cathartic to let all of those emotions out. And I found, you know, singing certain songs that I had written about previous relationships or whatever, they took on a new meaning because now I was in this completely different mindset. Right. So it's interesting how the songs kind of change personally, depending on what you're going through, even though, you know, some of the stuff from ruthless, that's from four years ago, and I was writing and I was performing them with a completely different angle. Yeah.
[01:04:07] Speaker B: Time is.
[01:04:09] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:04:09] Speaker B: Thank God.
[01:04:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Or else life would be pretty boring.
[01:04:13] Speaker B: And for the people that are taking a look at this, they watch, they see a video clip before we're talking. But what can you say about your music, the kind of music you do, the kind of music you want to do, the kind of music you.
You listen each day. Can you talk about this?
[01:04:32] Speaker D: Yeah. So, I mean, I'm not very genre specific in the music that I like to listen to. I think it's very mood depending me. So, you know, if I'm feeling. I like to get. If I want to get into a sad place and feel emotional. I'll listen to like some like folk music or some really slow kind of dark music. If I'm feeling good, I'll put on, you know, some. Some rock or some. Some pop or some indie. Like there's. It's all. It's ever changing.
But I think if it's good music, it's good music and I'll listen to it. You know, there's no genrese specifics, but.
[01:05:10] Speaker B: It depends on your feeling.
[01:05:12] Speaker D: Yeah, I definitely go, I listen to music based on my mood or if I'm trying to cheer myself. It's all definitely mood based.
[01:05:20] Speaker B: A lot of time when we are sad, I don't know why we used to listen to sad music, you know what I mean? And we are sad. More sad.
[01:05:28] Speaker D: I know you want to sit in that feeling. It's like, why do we do that to ourselves?
[01:05:33] Speaker B: I don't know why, but after all, we're so good. Because crying is good too.
[01:05:37] Speaker D: Yeah. You have to let those emotions out so that they can pass.
[01:05:40] Speaker B: And the people are asking like, so what about metal? Or what about alternative music or out rap music?
[01:05:48] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:05:48] Speaker B: Do you like that? Do you used to listen this kind of music?
[01:05:52] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, it's funny because the music that I create is, I think, a lot more aggressive than what I usually listen to, to be honest.
I love to listen to music for the lyrics and the melodies. And I find myself gravitating to more like singer song writer folk. But then I also love, you know, a good indie record as well. But it is kind of a funny, like, juxtaposition between the music I listen to and the music I write is kind of. It's different.
[01:06:21] Speaker B: And when do you remember the first time you hear a strong sound?
Something really heavy? The first time, I think you were so young.
[01:06:34] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, I remember actually, this is funny. So I used to.
My dad loves like classic rock and that's what I kind of grew up listening to at the beginning when I was just listening to what my family was listening to. Right. I didn't really know my own personal style in music yet.
[01:06:50] Speaker B: Like, which kind of bands?
[01:06:51] Speaker D: Well, Led Zeppelin was a huge band in our house. And I remember as a kid we had a vhs of one of their concerts live.
And I was watching it and I kept.
Black Dog came on that song and I kept rewinding it and watching it again and then rewinding it and watching it again. And I just remember being so in awe of that song. It just hit me in a way that I just needed to hear more of it. I needed more of that. And that was like the first memory of having a song just kind of like, you know, I don't remember, honestly. It was. Yeah, like probably eight or nine or something like that. Like one of my first memories of, like, you know. Yeah.
[01:07:41] Speaker B: And your eyes were just like.
[01:07:43] Speaker D: Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:45] Speaker B: Oh, that's definitely really nice things.
What do you feel? You just feel you want to do the same things do on stage like this, or you want. Want to do just music to give the certain power. I don't know how we can say in English.
[01:08:01] Speaker D: Yeah, enforce.
[01:08:03] Speaker B: Enforce.
[01:08:03] Speaker D: Yeah, it was a little bit of both. I remember being. Because it was a live tape, so it was the concert, and I remember just being in awe of the stage presence, of the sound of the guitars, and also thinking, I want to be on that stage. I want to do that.
[01:08:22] Speaker B: It's nice, apparently.
[01:08:23] Speaker D: It's nice.
[01:08:28] Speaker B: We used to say, all the people that we got here in the sofa, they used to say that they wanna.
They search about a strong feeling, something really not heavy, but, you know, when you got a really strong gator Reef, you can have a vibration. And maybe if you are anger or it helps you to. To get out all this shit, you know?
[01:08:50] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. I find that in listening to music, in writing music, like, I think some of my heavier songs come from places of frustration, and it's so cathartic to let that out. And then each night on stage, be able to scream into the microphone and just let it all out. And then you get that energy back from the audience as well, which kind of just makes the adrenaline higher and makes you want to do it more. It's like a drug almost. You know, they used to say that, too.
[01:09:19] Speaker B: Everybody said that, you know, we want to feel that, too. Yeah, but they'll be the other side from the tv, so we don't see them.
[01:09:28] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:09:29] Speaker B: And can you tell. Can you say that rock and roll, you know, all the jams of rock and roll are really specific for this. We. We feel more the public than the other music, other kind of music, like more than in electro, more than in rap music.
[01:09:49] Speaker D: Do you think there's more feeling?
[01:09:50] Speaker B: Yeah. The exchange between the crowd and you.
[01:09:53] Speaker D: Right.
I mean, I think with live performance, it depends on.
That's interesting because I feel like initially. Yeah. Because rock and roll has that. That immediacy of that energy and. You know what I mean? That aggressiveness and that gets given back by the audience and it's an exchange like that. But then, you know, I've been to some softer shows, like a folk show or something, where it might not be the same energy, but the feeling is intense because that kind of music takes you to a different place. So I don't know if it's fair to compare them one or the other, because I think I both kind of ignite a different. Certain emotion. You know what I mean?
[01:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah, but maybe the instruments.
[01:10:40] Speaker D: Well, absolutely.
[01:10:42] Speaker B: Doing something more than just playing music.
[01:10:46] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, there's nothing like being in a rock show where you've got, like, dueling guitars going and then there's guitar noise and there's the. Yeah, and there's. I mean, there's. There's nothing like that, so.
[01:10:56] Speaker B: Well, we're gonna talk about the first choice. I asked you to. To choose four video clips. So the first one is a band that I love.
I really love them. I just crying at every show. You know, they went at the Trianon the last time, I think. So if I don't say bullshit, just Pouville Fiennes and you choose the name of the song is dead disco. Why?
[01:11:22] Speaker D: So that song was one of the first songs that I remember hearing that record and that song. And it just completely consumed me. And it was. It was such a cool thing to see a powerful woman fronting the band. It was very inspiring for me. Inspiring for me as a woman in the industry, to see that recklessness and that rawness come out. And, you know, the video is very much, you know, kind of grungy and that whole attitude. So for me, it was kind of one of those. Those starting points again of like, huh? I want to do that. You know, it's like a light went off.
[01:12:01] Speaker B: So.
[01:13:00] Speaker A: Skip town, slow down push it to the east coast step down, turn around push it to the west need less, use less whereas in for too much, I guess.
Cause all we get is dead fist go dead fond dead rock and roll remodel everything it's got time la la la let's go dead rock and roll remodel everything spend time la la ladae tits out, pants down overnight to London, touchdown, look around, everyone's the same worldwide, airtight no one's got a face left to blame and all we get is death disco, dead body, dead rock and roll remodel everything I know, I know you try to change things I know you try to change bang, bang this.
[01:15:44] Speaker D: One is called the rush.
I woke up this morning independent.
[01:16:02] Speaker A: I had my red dress on again.
[01:16:08] Speaker D: Last night I came out, I was so. Damn Mandev I don't even know where I went wrong, but I went.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: It's times like these that I swear to God. And that my mother can't see me in. And she did. I don't know how I could keep it together.
I don't know how I could keep it.
[01:16:38] Speaker D: It's a rush, it's a lust you can't trust. It's a rush, it's a lust you can't trust.
There's something to be said about the power of persuasion.
[01:16:55] Speaker A: Ah, yeah, it's a fine line. Just wait until the cross.
[01:17:02] Speaker D: Between what's right, what's wrong, what really turns you.
[01:17:06] Speaker A: Out, what makes your heart beat faster.
[01:17:10] Speaker D: You're headed for a beautiful disaster.
[01:17:13] Speaker A: Shots like these. And I swear to God, I'm glad my mother can't see me. And she dead. I don't know how I could keep it together.
I don't know how I could keep it here.
At times like these. That I love to forget.
[01:17:30] Speaker D: Cause it easy.
[01:17:31] Speaker A: And I live with regret. I don't know how I could keep it together.
I don't know how I could keep it.
[01:17:47] Speaker D: The rush. It's a lust you can't trust.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: It's a rush, it's a lust you can't trust. Can you keep it? The bus you can't trust. I can't keep it.
You can't trust.
At times like these.
[01:18:02] Speaker D: That I swear to God I'm glad.
[01:18:04] Speaker A: My mother can't see me.
[01:18:06] Speaker D: And as she dead.
[01:18:07] Speaker A: I don't know how I could keep it together.
I don't know how I could keep it up.
Many times like these. And I love to forget. Cause it's easier than I live with regret. I don't know how I can keep it together.
I don't know how I can keep it.
[01:18:28] Speaker D: It's a rush, it's a lust you can't trust. It's a rush, it's a lust you can't trust.
[01:18:35] Speaker A: It's a rush, it's a lust you can't trust.
Bang, bang.
[01:18:46] Speaker B: GG Wild studio confirm Mercy new AC Piscu to saw an album B and Ev Damo Lodos Ymuku the book no demosion sample yeah. Democracy Florida Pool three antipook and candy person you see more so we're going to talk about when you were young again.
To nonfalse. So you grew up. Of course.
[01:19:43] Speaker D: Kind of.
[01:19:45] Speaker B: I'm going to say maybe not. I don't know. You grow up, maybe your body. But in your mind.
[01:19:50] Speaker D: I grew. I don't know if I grew up. No.
[01:19:53] Speaker B: Rock and roll is changing. Something about our minds, we still young or we grew up. But sometimes when you play or when you do music, you're younger.
[01:20:01] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. I think that there's something beautiful about music that takes you to a place of being a kid again, you know? I mean, how crazy is it that I get to say my job is playing music every night on stage? That always feels like a dream come true and feels like I'm living out my childhood dream, which kind of takes me to that place again.
I definitely think rock and roll keeps you young 100%.
[01:20:24] Speaker B: It's the time, like, you're on stage, like.
[01:20:27] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[01:20:28] Speaker B: It's a funny time. No, you work, but it's a funny time. I hope so.
[01:20:32] Speaker D: Yeah. It doesn't really feel like work.
[01:20:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, really. No, no time. No time.
[01:20:37] Speaker D: I mean, no time. I mean, sometimes, you know, when you're on a two month tour and you've done five shows in a row and you're not sleeping and that kind of stuff, but honestly, as soon as I get up on stage, all of that fades away and you're just. You're captured in that moment. And there's not a lot of times in my life where I get to be 100% present. You know, I overthink a lot. I analyze, you know, every little thing all the time. And so I find I'm constantly in my head, and being on stage, living in that moment, connecting with the audience in that way, is one of the only times where there's no. Nothing going on in my head. It's just full. This is the time, exactly. It's just present in that moment. And that is. It's hard to come by.
[01:21:22] Speaker B: Yeah. After there's a bad mood, after a gig, have you got something like, you're sad because this is the end of the show, you know?
[01:21:31] Speaker D: No, no, it's more of a high, actually. Yeah. You're on the adrenaline rush of the show, and you're thinking about, oh, that was great. And this. Unless you didn't feel like it was a good show, then it kind of sucks. But usually.
Usually you're kind of on a high.
[01:21:45] Speaker B: After a show, but normally after, hey.
[01:21:48] Speaker D: There is a crash eventually. That's the. That's the post.
[01:21:51] Speaker B: You got the show the day after.
[01:21:53] Speaker D: It's when the tour's over. That's when the crash happens. Yeah. Yeah, that's back to reality. And I find after a tour, I'll kind of just shell up for a week. I don't want to talk to anybody. I don't want to see anybody I just want to sleep. And then I reemerge.
[01:22:09] Speaker B: And you talk to your friends like, please be there.
[01:22:12] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[01:22:13] Speaker B: That's simple.
And is there any moment in your life when you put music, like, you don't want to hear about music, you don't want to be a part of music?
[01:22:23] Speaker D: Yeah.
It's not often, I think, no matter what I'm going through, I find that I have a soundtrack for my life. So I think it's more depending on what type of music, you know? So it's like, there are times, though, I mean, actually, when you're in the mixing stage of a record, you're listening to the same song over and over. You're analyzing every little detail. You're listening to the levels and everything like that. So, you know, when you're in that stage of the record process, that's probably the only time that when, you know, I'm done analyzing the songs, blah, blah, blah, I just don't want to listen to anything. I just need quiet because I've been so overanalyzing the music.
[01:23:05] Speaker B: Yeah, go crazy.
[01:23:06] Speaker D: Exactly. It kind of drives you nuts. So that's probably the only time that would say, I just need silence. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[01:23:15] Speaker B: I don't know if we can say that.
Is there any moment you told you that you just want to use, like, heavier sounds? You are. You got a voice, like, I just want to tell to all the people that your voice is, like, voice like, thank you.
[01:23:39] Speaker D: A rasp. Yeah.
[01:23:40] Speaker B: And it's amazing. Like, the power of your voice is just, like, over the music. So I really love. Everybody just listen to you said, I can tell you, the french people just say, ah, I just love a voice. I don't know. You know, when I hear the voice, we're just like, oh, fucking, that's amazing. That's perfect. There's not much more, apparently, women that got the such a voice, so congratulations for this.
[01:24:05] Speaker D: Thank you.
[01:24:06] Speaker B: Do you think that at one time, you told you that you want to have a really strong sound with it? Like, really. When I said really strong, it's like heavy rag, you know?
[01:24:16] Speaker D: Yeah, I think it's funny enough. So when before I was doing this and in this career, I was in a folk band, and this was like, years and years, and it was very soft and moody music. And I remember thinking back to that band, and my favorite times on stage were the heavy songs where I could just let loose on stage and whip my hair around. And so when it came to, you know, making my first record with this project, I remember thinking that exact thing? It was like, well, the songs I had the most fun in this other band were the heavy ones, so I want to try that. And really, it's a part of self expression as well. I feel like it's just a natural thing to. For me at least, to write that way. And that's kind of how it just came out.
My voice.
I like singing like that. I feel it.
I love being aggressive on stage, and so it just kind of naturally progressed into that sound.
[01:25:20] Speaker B: So you keep it. You keep this kind of. This part of everything. The voice, the power, the wild thing, if I can say that.
[01:25:29] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I like that.
[01:25:32] Speaker B: And so we can see your clothes today, but do you still have, like, black things or.
[01:25:40] Speaker D: Oh, yes, black leather. Come on.
[01:25:43] Speaker B: With black shirts. And we always wear black things.
[01:25:47] Speaker D: I don't know why.
[01:25:48] Speaker B: Maybe because we just say, oh, we are so sad. I. Oh, metal things. We said we try.
[01:25:54] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:25:54] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:25:55] Speaker D: I mean, black looks good on everybody.
No, I definitely still have the leather. I've got the black outfit, the chains and everything like that. But it's fun to also express yourself in different ways in fashion, you know, I don't think it's just one thing, but I do have. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's also mood based, for sure. Fashion is completely based on my mood.
[01:26:14] Speaker B: Definite moment in my.
[01:26:16] Speaker D: In my fashion.
[01:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Or in your life, in your way of thinking.
[01:26:20] Speaker D: Um, yeah, I mean, I think there's. Yeah, I think there's a little bit of that in here, for sure.
[01:26:27] Speaker B: Um, do you feel that today with the music you do. You. You're part of fuck the name in English. I don't know, tribut, you know, tribe.
[01:26:37] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. Like a community.
[01:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah, community.
[01:26:39] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. I feel like in Nashville, you told us. Yeah, moving to Nashville, definitely, I found more of a community than I had ever found in Canada. I feel like Canada is a little bit more spread out and, you know, there's great musicians everywhere, but it's not as easy to just, you know, go to the bar and meet five musicians that then you go right with the next day. Like, that was such a new experience for me. So I really feel like I did find a community of musicians there, and it's incredible to be a part of that. It's really exciting as an artist to be with like minded people, you know, kind of all trying to achieve a common goal. I feel like there's a sense of bringing each other up and sharing opportunities and things like that that I hadn't really found before.
[01:27:27] Speaker B: It's like a new family.
[01:27:28] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:27:29] Speaker B: So that's nice.
[01:27:30] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:27:31] Speaker B: That's the first time we can choose family.
Love you, dad.
And about this album, you talk about the broken heart, the la rupture.
Is that easier to talk about, the bad part of the broken heart, or you can talk about easy as this, like, about when you're happy, when you're. You know what I mean?
[01:28:05] Speaker D: Yes.
Yes. I think it's easier to. To, like. Do you mean, like, talking about it now that I'm past it, or are you saying, is it easier to talk about.
[01:28:16] Speaker B: Because every. Every time we talk about love, it's all. So. It's always. It's lots of time. The rupture, the broken heart.
[01:28:26] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:28:26] Speaker B: It's not the best part.
[01:28:28] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. When you're together, you know, 100%, then.
[01:28:30] Speaker B: I used to say, oh, we love it.
[01:28:32] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah.
That's boring, but that's perfect.
[01:28:36] Speaker B: But we don't think about this. Not much.
[01:28:39] Speaker D: Yeah. No, I think for me, at least, you know, when you're in those dark places after a heartbreak, your emotions are running so high and there's so much to dig into. So I find I write better music when I'm sad, you know? And it. Because there is. It's real. You're experiencing it in real time, and you can pull from. Things are really authentic to you, and I feel like there's more working through that. That also happens when you're going through heartbreak versus when you're happy and in that great relationship, you're kind of consumed with that.
[01:29:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:29:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:29:20] Speaker D: And you don't necessarily think to write about it, and it doesn't.
[01:29:23] Speaker B: You live it, so you just stay in it.
[01:29:26] Speaker D: Yeah. But when there's heartbreak, when there's. When there's that, it's like you have no choice but to work through it, and that's what comes out in the music.
[01:29:33] Speaker B: There's a kind of poetry.
[01:29:36] Speaker D: Yeah. It's a little poetic.
[01:29:39] Speaker B: Something romantic, like, of we're sad.
[01:29:42] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:29:43] Speaker B: Praying something. Well, you know, so we're gonna talk about another song, lola Young.
[01:29:55] Speaker D: So she is an artist I discovered, actually. There's a radio station in Nashville called WNXP, and it's a.
It's a community radio station, and it's all about discovering new artists.
[01:30:10] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:30:10] Speaker D: So I would have. It's all new, and it's, you know, it's Nashville based, but there's people from everywhere. I believe she's from England, and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure she was from England, and it was one of these songs where I heard it and instantly was like, oh, that has some attitude to it. She's a powerful woman. She's saying stuff that she doesn't care. You know, she's talking about being, about smoking weed and leaving the house a mess and blah, blah, blah, and how this, her partner, you know, hates that. But that's the way she is. And I feel like that's so relatable because as a woman, your, you know, society is so stupid in the sense that it's, you know, saying, act this way, be a lady, dress like this, blah, blah, blah. And this song just talks about doing the exact opposite and being an absolute mess and being fine with that. And it was one of those things. It was a song that just caught me off guard and instantly turned me into a fan. So that was why I chose that one.
[01:31:06] Speaker B: So we talk about love. We can be in love with a song, with a band. Music. An album. Yours? Yeah, for the people.
[01:31:15] Speaker D: Me too.
[01:31:16] Speaker B: Oh, I love her. I love the sounds. Do you feel something like when you're in love, like crush, like when you got the.
[01:31:24] Speaker D: Yeah, the butterflies?
[01:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you can feel it like when you're in love with your song.
[01:31:28] Speaker D: Oh, absolutely. It's like love at first listen. Yeah.
[01:31:32] Speaker B: Which we get the highest changing.
[01:31:34] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it definitely invokes a sense of emotion and makes you feel alive. You know what I mean? It's very inspiring.
[01:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I think everybody loves that. This is the best part. This is quick, but this is the best part. Yeah, don't bang bang. Gg.
[01:31:58] Speaker A: Lola, young eluth.
You know I'm impatient, so why would you leave me waiting outside the station when it was like minus four degrees? And I get what you say, I just really don't want to hear it right now. Can you shut up for like once in your life?
Listen to I took you nice words of advice about how you think I'm gonna die lucky if I turn 33. Okay, so yeah, I smoked like a chimney, I'm not skinny and I pull up Britney every other week. But cut me some slack. Who do you want me to be? Cuz I'm too messy and then I'm too fucking clean. You told me get a job and you ask where the hell I've been. And I'm too close.
I open my big mouth, I want to be me. Is that not allowed? And I'm too clever and then I'm too fucking dumb. You hate it when I cry and it's just that time of the month and I'm too perfect so I show you that I'm not a thousand people I could be for you when you hate the fucking love?
One text or two would be nice and please don't pull those faces when I out working my house off all day it's just one bottle of wine on stupid. Hey, you can't even talk?
[01:34:07] Speaker D: You smoke weed just to help you sleep?
[01:34:09] Speaker A: And while you out getting stoned at 04:00 and then you come home to me and don't say hello cause I got high again, I forgot to pull my glove cause I'm too messy and then I'm too fucking clean? You told me get a job and you asked whether hell I've been? And I'm too perfect, till I open my big mouth, I want to be me love you hate the fucking you hate the fucking.
Till I open my big mouth I want to be me, is that not allowed? And I'm too clever and then I'm too fucking dumb, you hate it when I cry?
Bang bang.
[01:36:52] Speaker D: Allowed me. Fontaine say Paul Major C dont pay new.
[01:37:46] Speaker A: Every night I'm familiar places stranger.
[01:37:49] Speaker D: In my bed keeps changing faces.
[01:37:57] Speaker A: Say I got a problem with my heart I'll pick you up at the hotel bar, I let you drive my car, this is my friend, you can be my toy, you can be my best boy?
I don't even care if you say it bad? You could be my toy, you could be my best boy?
[01:38:33] Speaker D: Run with me, I'll set you free? Chasing every high.
[01:38:43] Speaker A: I wanna live real fast while I'm still young, finding new ways to come undone? Love is a drug and I'm all fucked up again?
You say I got a problem with my heart? I'll pick you up at the hotel bar?
Backseat in my car, this is my God. If you wanna play? You can be my soul?
You could be my best boy?
I don't even care if you made it fair? You can be my toy, you can be my best boy?
How you guys doing now?
You still with me now? Don't you see I'm running free?
I know what you want and I got what you need?
Don't you see I'm running free?
[01:40:01] Speaker D: Love, it tastes so good? You drop down to your feet?
[01:40:06] Speaker A: Is it my game if you wanna play? You could be my turn?
You could be my best friend?
I don't even care if you let?
You can be my choice?
You could be my best friend, be my best boy.
[01:40:54] Speaker B: Bang bang, gg one.
Bang bang. We saw nouvel album is 30 dozen, album is a pal, vices so for this album, this second album, I can read in Duchy press, I don't know the word in English that you are going on a road trip.
[01:41:38] Speaker D: Yes. Yeah. That was kind of the catalyst of the. That was like, the jumpstart of this album was after the tour, after the breakup, all that, I was going on a writing trip to Nashville. This was before I had moved to Nashville, and I drove by myself. Just me and my dog got in the car. We drove from Canada to Nashville. I spent two weeks there meeting a bunch of different writers. Writing. Writing and just loving that. And then I went to. I drove from Nashville to LA, also alone, which is a lot of time to spend in a car by yourself.
A lot of thinking. Yeah.
A lot of thoughts going on. So then I went to LA. I spent two weeks in LA doing the same thing, writing, meeting new writers, getting a feel for the scene out there. And then I was supposed to drive home, and instead I took, like, a month and a half of going across America and waking up and saying, where do I want to go today? And I had a friend that had flown out from Canada to LA to meet me, to drive home, and instead we just went on this amazing adventure where there was nothing planned, and we ended up in New Orleans for Mardi Gras. On a whim, we just thought, let's go. So we did, and we spent some time there, and that was just the. The theme of the road trip was there's nothing to do. We get to completely decide each day what adventure we're gonna have. And it was so freeing, and it was so amazing to kind of, you know, take control like that.
[01:43:09] Speaker B: It's a fitting. It's an amazing feeling to be free and you need it.
[01:43:13] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely.
[01:43:15] Speaker B: It was amazing. Like, driving is something really nice to that.
[01:43:18] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:43:18] Speaker B: Your mind is going away. You're just concentrating on the road.
[01:43:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:43:22] Speaker B: And maybe you listen to music.
[01:43:23] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely.
[01:43:25] Speaker B: And we know if you.
Everybody loves your dog banjo.
Which kind of music did you listen? Every. Every kind of music. Like, on your way. Like you. You told us.
[01:43:46] Speaker D: Yeah, there was a lot of Tom Petty. There was a lot of Tom Petty on that road trip. Yeah. Great driving music. No, there was. That was a fun thing, too, is listening to different playlists and discovering different artists and then different albums. There was a Del water gap album that. It was on repeat in that road trip. There was. Yeah. A lot of Tom pennile. There was Maggie Rogers. There was.
There was a ton. That was one of the most fun things, was just getting into that zone of road tripping. And that kind of contributed to the album as well. For this album, I had the vision of somebody rolling the windows down, highway driving, and just kind of going and getting to that place where you're focusing on the road, but your mind is allowed to wander as you listen to the music, and it's allowed to, you know, kind of create the movie in your head of what you picture is going on in these songs. And that's what I wanted to convey in the album as well.
[01:44:41] Speaker B: This is the process.
Your mind is somewhere else, but you can see, like, the visage and. Yeah, you feel the music. You. You feel the specific things of the.
Oh, shit, I got a name in Spanish.
Each kind of things like this are fitting you.
[01:45:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:45:08] Speaker B: To this process of creativity.
[01:45:10] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. I think there's a lot of, you know, each moment you take, and you take that with you, and that comes through in the music. You know what I mean? There's little bits of life that is creeping in. Yeah, exactly. It's all creeping into the music somehow.
[01:45:25] Speaker B: And do you remember some funny from this road trip? I don't know. If you don't. If you don't remember, that's okay.
[01:45:31] Speaker D: Oh, something funny about the road trip. I mean, there was a lot.
[01:45:34] Speaker B: Someone you meet, may you met maybe a person when you go to eat and you just talk like, girl guy. I don't know.
[01:45:43] Speaker D: Yeah, we met a. We met a pilot.
We met a pilot that actually ended up joining our road trip for a little bit.
[01:45:52] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[01:45:53] Speaker D: Yep. We would drive to the next city, and he would fly to the next city and meet us there and came to a few cities with us because we. I think we met in Arizona.
[01:46:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:46:05] Speaker D: And we went out that night and had a great time. And then he's like, well, what are you girls doing tomorrow? And we're like, well, we're gonna be in, you know, wherever we were going the next day. I think we were going to Flagstaff, Arizona, and it was a big drive, and then we were going, I think, to Kentucky. I can't remember where we were going, but he was like, well, I got nothing to do. Do you mind if I. If I meet you guys there? So it became this hilarious where we were driving, he was flying, and then we kind of bumped around cities together and became this little crew, and then. Yeah. And then got to ride in this plane, which was crazy.
[01:46:41] Speaker B: Wow, that's nice. Sorry. We don't used to have this kind of story.
So funny. And did you metal people? Because we used to talk in France. In us, there's a lot of metal music. Alton Al music. Rock and roll, of course.
[01:46:56] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:46:57] Speaker B: Not like in France. It's not like the same, you know, it. But we used to say that every time you're in a countryside or you stop, you have a stop in a station or something like this. You met, you see metal people. Is that true?
[01:47:13] Speaker D: I mean, yeah, I think we did. There wasn't a ton that I can, like, recall of, you know, being like, oh, that's a metal head. But, you know, you can usually. You can usually point them out, though. Long hair, tattoos, black clothes. You know what I mean? Those are my kind of people.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. The loudest music playing, but often the most kind people. It's funny. It's a misconception. And when I was bartending at a music venue in my hometown, metal nights were my favorite night because all the other bartenders are like, oh, metal knight. They're gonna be all aggressive and mean and whatever. I'm like, no, no. Actually, metalheads are some of the most respective nice people I've ever met. So kind. And it's its own community. You know, you get into the pit, you fall down, somebody picks you back up. It's not like you're not getting bashed in the head. I found, at least in my experience with it, has been some of the nicest people I've ever met.
[01:48:16] Speaker B: And you laugh a lot with them.
[01:48:17] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
[01:48:19] Speaker B: Because that maybe they've got this kind of.
Can joke about themselves.
[01:48:26] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Don't take themselves too seriously.
[01:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. And I can read, too, that you did your. I don't know if it's true, and if I understand. Well, you did your first show without alcohol. Yes.
[01:48:41] Speaker D: Yep. I did my first tour, actually. It was a two month long.
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, it was. It was kind of an experiment, honestly, I just wanted to know if I could do it, because I think I had. It's not that I was depending on alcohol, but I got into a routine where I'd have a couple drinks and. Yeah. And especially because I struggle with stage fright, even though I love performing, you know, I definitely get that jittery feeling. And, you know, early on in my career, I would be so scared. I would be shaking on stage trying to play guitar, and my hands would be going like this.
[01:49:17] Speaker B: So you have a dream to be.
[01:49:18] Speaker D: Yeah. To kind of mellow out and. And chill out. And so for me, I just wanted to know that I was able to take that power for myself and channel it and say, no, I don't need this to do this certain thing. I can do it without. And it was actually really incredible. It showed me that I can do it without booze. I can perform with or without.
Yeah, it was an interesting experience.
[01:49:42] Speaker B: We've got a woman, an artist, that came here and told us that she stopped using alcohol to put stress out. But she told us it was the first time I see people, and she was saying, and I was just like, there's so many people. Wow.
[01:50:04] Speaker D: Well, it definitely is a thing. I remember the first couple shows, and actually, that whole tour, it's intimidating and scary, because I find when, you know, when I was drinking before shows, you're kind of in your own zone and you're not as connected to the crowd. I found. And then when I was completely sober, it is like that. You're seeing everybody. You're really feeling everyone's energy way more intensely than you do without.
[01:50:28] Speaker B: It's better.
[01:50:29] Speaker D: It's better. And so I think that's how I'm going to do my shows from now on. Just wait till after to have the party.
[01:50:36] Speaker B: Yes, exactly.
Congratulations. Because I know it's so hard, you know, in metal scene, everywhere you can go, like in the media and everywhere, there's always alcohol, and everybody just want to have a drink. But you go to say hello to this one and this one and this one, so.
[01:50:59] Speaker D: Right.
[01:50:59] Speaker B: You always have a drink enough.
You can be tired.
[01:51:03] Speaker D: Yeah, it can. It can be a lot, especially on a long tour.
[01:51:06] Speaker B: So congratulations.
[01:51:07] Speaker D: Thank you.
[01:51:08] Speaker B: I'm so happy for this.
And I just want to say that the new generation is not like you're younger than me, more than me. I'm so old.
Maybe your generation of the next one is not into alcohol, I think. So here in France, we can see that they. Maybe they use more drugs, I don't know, but they know. Not into alcohol like we wear, I think.
[01:51:32] Speaker D: Yeah, well, I mean, I think there's a.
I think. Well, I think that still. It's still definitely a part of the culture. Yeah, of course. But I think people are just finding different avenues. You know, some people are smoking more weed, some people are doing this. Whatever. I mean, whatever floats your boat. Fine.
[01:51:52] Speaker B: So. Well, do you. That's the bad question. Do you prefer the Europe vibe or even if you love Nashville? I understand, but what's the difference between Europe and North America?
[01:52:05] Speaker D: There is a huge difference, and I love the european culture. I find that North America is a rat race. Everyone is so consumed with the next big thing and making more money and more, more, more. There's consumerism everywhere. There's ads everywhere being shoved down your throat of do this, buy this, all of that. And there's an aggressiveness of you have to work so hard and you don't socialize that much. And it's just like work, work, work. And I find that Europe has a way more laid back lifestyle where the work life balance is a lot more healthy. Even just walking around the city, seeing all walks of life out at cafes and having a glass of wine with a, a friend and that, you know, that's something that in, you know, Canada, America, it's like, oh, no, you work on during the week and you have fun on your weekends and that's how it has to be. And I find that here there's just such more of a balance with that.
[01:53:04] Speaker B: We love to take our time.
[01:53:05] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly. Everybody in North America is in a rush for no reason, you know, chill.
[01:53:11] Speaker B: Or maybe sometimes we take too much time, but we love to use to work at the ingestion, the urgency, you know, like, hurry up, hurry up. You got 2 hours to do something, like from one week, so.
[01:53:25] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, we did it. Yeah, exactly.
[01:53:29] Speaker B: Do you do with metal bands or do you already do the first part, the guest part of the tour with a metal band or alternative rock band?
[01:53:40] Speaker D: I mean, I've toured with quite a few bands. None that were like specifically metal, I would say, but some harder rock bands, for sure.
[01:53:49] Speaker B: The same for me. Yeah, but it's really.
[01:53:52] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, some of my shows in Europe have been with some amazing bands. I opened for Scorpions, opened for Kiss. That was an insane, you know, dream come true to happen.
That was absolutely incredible. That was like, it felt like I was living a dream. It felt like it wasn't real, you know, it was like, what am I doing on the stage? But, yeah, it was really incredible.
[01:54:17] Speaker B: You were like a kid, like, yeah, I remember I used to take a look at this and right now it's.
[01:54:22] Speaker D: It's happening. Yeah, exactly.
[01:54:25] Speaker B: What's your best moment, you remember?
[01:54:29] Speaker D: On stage?
[01:54:29] Speaker B: Yeah, on stage, with or without any band.
[01:54:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
So this summer, actually, and this is one that popped in my head, we were playing in Quebec at festival, festival d't.
And I had never been to that festival before, and I knew it was a larger festival, but I didn't know how many people were going to be there. And so my band and I were side stage and we couldn't see the crowd yet.
[01:55:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:55:01] Speaker D: And we're getting ready, you know, we're getting our in ears on and we're doing our little huddle and we're kind of just getting ready for the show. And all of a sudden the crowd started chanting, ole, ole, oleo.
And it was this insane thing because it started as a kind of quiet chant and then it grew louder, and then it grew louder, and then it grew louder. And me and my guys looked at each other and went, how many people are out there? And I'll never forget the sound of that roar. It was. I've never heard something so loud. And I walked out and there was 50,000 people.
[01:55:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's not the same.
[01:55:39] Speaker D: It was incredible, and it was this amazing energy and it was. I'm glad that I didn't know how many people were going to be there. Yeah. Because that surprise was it just had this adrenaline shot that just went through my body. Hearing that chant get louder and louder, it was incredible. And then walking out and kind of being stunned by the amount of people was it. I'll never forget that.
[01:56:03] Speaker B: It's really nice. 50,000 people. I think I can die song. You choose a blown shell. That's the name of the band or the artist. How you will talk about this with Veronique Amarts.
[01:56:16] Speaker D: Yeah. So this song was another song that. A new discovery for me, moving to Nashville. She's a Nashville artist, and I was in the car, and it was another song that. I love when this happens, the immediacy of when you hear a song, you're not expecting it, and then you just go, what's that? And turn it up right away. And it's this song that kind of progresses into a big mess. And I really love that where it's like, you know, it starts a little bit quieter and then gets a little heavier and a little heavier, and then it just. Yeah, and then it just kind of goes into these guitars and this and that. And that song, for me was another one that it just, it caught my ear right away. And then I immediately went to her album and download the whole thing and listen to the entire album because I was like, oh, I need more of this music. I love this. And I love when an artist can do that where I'm completely surprised by them and completely impressed by them and just become an instant fan. I find as a musician, it's harder and harder for me to get those moments because I listen to music in a different way now where without thinking about it, I'm not critical of the music, but I'm listening, but I'm listening to it with a different ear. I'm not listening to it. Always within the ear of a fan. I'm listening to it. I'm listening to the production, I'm listening to the lyric, and I'm kind of, like, analyzing the music instead of just enjoying it. So when I hear a song that all of that fades away and I'm just listening as a fan, I'm like, ooh, I love that. I need more of that. So that song, for me did that.
[01:57:55] Speaker B: That's a good song.
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[01:58:48] Speaker D: With a towel draped over.
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[01:58:54] Speaker A: It's pretty weird.
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[02:00:27] Speaker D: Let'S get you set. Tom Petty, Stevie Nicks, if you know it.
[02:00:35] Speaker A: Sing along, baby, you come knocking on my front door dance again well, what am I supposed to do? I didn't know what I was getting into.
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How do you feel today?
You are exciting or you just want to go on stage on tour? Just doing.
[02:05:50] Speaker D: I'm excited. I feel. Yeah, I'm ready to let this out live. You know, I've been holding on to these songs for a little bit. We did test out some of the songs live this summer at festivals and, you know, you throw a couple new ones in there, but to be able to play the album front to back for a new audience is so exciting and a little scary because a lot of people won't know the song. So it's like you get to see in real time how they like it, you know, and that's really intimidating, but also really exciting to get to see that because it's not often that you get to in real time, watch people hear your song for the first time. Right. So that's scary and exciting and intimidating and all the things, but I'm really excited to just get out there and start playing the stuff live.
[02:06:37] Speaker B: Are you this kind of artist that saying that when you're on stage and you share the songs, the songs are the songs of the people, not yours?
[02:06:46] Speaker D: I think they start out as mine when I'm writing them, and during the whole recording process, they're mine. And I think as soon as the record is out, they belong to everybody else.
[02:06:59] Speaker B: They leave the flag.
[02:06:59] Speaker D: It's gone. Yeah. It's like they're leaving. The kids are out of the house.
[02:07:04] Speaker B: And can you say that at the end of this process time, when you're ending the writing, you know yourself better?
[02:07:12] Speaker D: Absolutely. Yeah. I think there's a lot of self discovery, especially with this album. But I think in all writing, because you're, at least for me, the songs are derived from such a personal place, and especially for this album, because it was, you know, a roller coaster of emotions, and it was, you know, heartbreak. It was recklessness. It was getting through those emotions and then coming out on the other side of that. There was so much growth that happened there personally and in the music and coming through that journey and then being at the other side, I feel like I was a completely different person when I started writing this record. Completely different person. It's crazy, actually, just to look back on that.
[02:07:56] Speaker B: That's like a psychological things.
[02:07:59] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:08:00] Speaker B: I mean, like, if you go to do. To see the doctor. Yeah, you write it.
[02:08:04] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly. It's like a therapy session.
[02:08:06] Speaker B: That's it. And after this kind of story, I hope so. But do you feel that you can love again? Yeah.
[02:08:14] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely.
I think that it would be. It would be a disservice to myself to completely shell myself off. You know what I mean?
I think that this whole journey has made me fall in love with myself more than ever.
[02:08:31] Speaker B: That's important.
[02:08:32] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. And I feel like a lot of people in life are never given the chance or don't give themselves the chance to be alone long enough to be comfortable being alone. And once you feel that comfort within yourself and happiness, then you can really give that to somebody else and. And you can share that and you can receive that in a different way. But I think it takes a lot of growing to be able to be vulnerable again, and I'm still finding that, you know, I don't think I'm quite there. I'm still. I still have walls up a little bit here and there, but I feel like now I'm a lot better at recognizing them and saying, no, no, that's just me trying to protect myself. Let that go. Let that person in, because they deserve all of you, and you deserve. Deserve to be loved wholly. And you can't do that unless you let somebody in all the way. You know what I mean? So I'm definitely. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not jaded. Maybe a little bit, but not completely.
[02:09:58] Speaker B: Thank you so much. Thank you so much to talk about this kind of subjects. Thank you for coming here. Answer my questions. Yeah, we love a lot. So, as usual, it's a sunny time, so thank you. Thank you so much.
I hope to visit Nashville as soon as possible.
[02:10:13] Speaker D: Yes, you should. Absolutely.
[02:10:14] Speaker B: Because everybody just talk about this city.
[02:10:15] Speaker D: So you have to. Yeah, of course.
[02:10:17] Speaker B: Better than la.
[02:10:19] Speaker D: Yeah.
[02:10:20] Speaker B: Maybe less expensive and maybe less strange.
[02:10:24] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's strange, but it's a good kind of strange.
[02:10:43] Speaker B: Treasure we could take on bravo.
[02:11:01] Speaker D: I hope so.
[02:11:03] Speaker B: We're going to talk about this later.
[02:11:05] Speaker D: Yeah.
Lots more concerts coming up.
Yes. Want, want by Maggie Rogers. That song was that whole album, actually. The album is called surrender, but that song specifically, there's such a free energy about it, and it's all about, you know, giving in to those desires and just letting yourself have what you want and not feeling. And not feeling bad about it and doing whatever you want and, yeah, the freedom that comes with that. So this song specifically was one of my favorite songs, too, as funny as it sounds. Rollerblade, too. I love.
I would. I would put it on. Yeah, I would put it on. And just, like, there was a track in NAsHviLle that I would go rollerblading on, and it was just such a good song to, like, work out to. And it makes you feel energized and inspired. So this one. Yeah, it's a good song.
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[02:12:17] Speaker A: If you all want what you want more than you want it?
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Try to forget the rest cause I watch you get undressed? Pray God this won't be a mess and I keep running but when I leave you pull me in again?
You can't fake what you can't break up with if you understand? A few years when we're racing my die? If you can't live just to taste it?
And I want you where can we take this slow? Everybody's always but I didn't want to cheek to cheek, I feel it in my teeth. It's too good to resist.
[02:14:09] Speaker B: Now keep.
[02:14:09] Speaker A: Running away, but when I leave, you pull me in again.
We both know if you want what you bump on in your body. Can't have you decide what you own. It can't be what you can't break up with.
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